What small fish from Tanganyika biotop at the top level of the tank?

[Svolp]

Hi guys!

Am writing on english so all of u can understand my question..
I have a Tanganyika tank with 8 Julidochromis marlieri..
The size of the tank is 120L, its a juwel lido if somebody have seen it befor.

I want a fish, maybe 10-20 that only are at the middle and top level of the tank.. have been searching all over but cant finde anyone that fits my demands.

PH : 8
GH : 15
KH : 4

It must be from Tanganyika ;-)

Thanks!

(ignore my bad english guys and u can respond on swed, danish or norwegian to me)

[Wilhelm]

It´s a very small tank, but you can try to have some cyprichromis leptosoma "utinta".

Best is to get a bigger tank!

By the way, welcome to the best ciklid forum

[Svolp]

Thank you for the answer..
I thougt cyprichromis leptosoma "utinta" got really big and needed a big tan, like 300++ ?
Am thinking about Lacustricola pumilus, anybody that know anything about this one?
The problem is that i have seen i books that this fish is most happy when the tank is full of plants and not so sharp light?!

Got 5 anubias and some vallisnera!

Kenneth

[Anders i Askim]

Hi!
The perfect choise is Lamprichthys tanganicanus.
A very nice fish whith with good mood and beautiful colors.

[Svolp]

Even in a tank that isnt bigger then 120L ? was sure this fish had to have lot of space to swim in? My marlieri at the biggest will be around 10cm and Lamprichthys tanganicanus can grow up to 15cm or what?

hmmm.. lake tanganyika dont got so many small fish or what?

[Wilhelm]

Even in a tank that isnt bigger then 120L ? ...
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hmmm.. lake tanganyika dont got so many small fish or what?

No but you are lucky , there exist bigger tanks so you can have bigger Tanganyjkas!

I thougt cyprichromis leptosoma "utinta" got really big and needed a big tan, like 300++ ?

They don´t get big, only about 8 cm.

[Svolp]

Well.. its bigger tanks to buy out there to a fear price, but if that happend I had to buy a new apartment to and that isnt wery cheap these days

120L is all I can have.

[Ola Svensson]

Hi

I don't think you can find a Lake Tanganyika fish small enough to keep 10-20 individuals in a 120L tank. However, you can easily have a 1+3 group of Paracyprichromis or a small Cyprichromis. If you want 10-20 individuals you have to pick a non-Tanganyika fish such as a Poecilia or a danio.

Cheers

Ola

[Svolp]

Hmmm...
Thats to bad.. But what about Lacustricola pumilus ?

Kenneth

[Mike_Noren]

Hmmm...
Thats to bad.. But what about Lacustricola pumilus ?

Yes, it should be possible to have 10 or more of those plus Julidochromis in a 120 liter. The trick is finding them, L. pumilus is a rare fish in the trade. A similar and more common species which would probably also work is Poropanchax normani.

[PatrikMalmo]

I´m breeding L. pumilus (Burundi CI2008 ) and I also know more people that have these nice fish. They should work in your tank. Easy to keep, easy to get eggs from but a little difficult to raise the newborn. They will show off very nice, but beware of "males from Hell" - sometimes one male is a killer, and slowly decimates the lot...

If you put a piece of Hornsärv, Ceratophyllum, in the tank they will have a good time. The plant also exist in Lake Tanganyika.

I do not recommend Cyps or Lamprichtys, both need/like plenty of space. The Lido-model also have a strange shape (quite high in relation to width), so it´s not suitable for these fish.

Hilsen,

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[Svolp]

Thanks alot for good answares guys!
Think I will go for Lacustricola pumilus, then my "mini" tanganyika is completed with fish, snail and plants only from Tanganyika.. (I think ;-)

Just hope somebody can order this for me in my local fishshop, if not maybe I will try Poropanchax normani.. But since this is a killi I thougt they needed mutch softer wather and lower PH then I got. I have 8 PH, 4 KH and GH 15

I am back from work on monday morning, will try to post some pictures from the tank.

Kenneth

[Mike_Noren]

Poropanchax normani.. But since this is a killi I thougt they needed mutch softer wather and lower PH then I got. I have 8 PH, 4 KH and GH 15

Both L. pumilus and P. normani are lamp eyes, and both do just fine in hard water.

[PatrikMalmo]

pumilus is also a killi, and I agree with Mike - they will do fine in your water. The waterparameters can be important if you want to breed these fish sucessfully in large numbers, but I´m quite convinced you will se some youngster in your tank anyway.

Hilsen,

/Patrik

[Svolp]

Hi again..

I will try to get pumilus since this is located in tanganyika. If that dosent work out I will try to get normani, but am hoping that I cant get hold of pumilus so that the tank is only tanganyika species.

Kenneth